Pain: Your Body’s Natural Alarm System and How To Manage It with Dr. Ted Jacobs

Whether constant, chronic, or intense, pains are signs of imbalances in the body that have triggered inflammation. That inflammation is a triggered response of your immune system designed to heal the area that has become imbalanced. Since most pain is caused by inflammation and is a response of your immune system, people can relieve pain gently and effectively through targeted immune support and naturally-induced inflammation reduction.

In this episode, host Silvia Yoshida and Dr. Ted Jacobs discuss:

  • The science of pain
  • Nerve activation and the brain
  • How pain is a helpful alarm signal in the body
  • How re-establishing balance in the body is the key to relieving pain
  • Why all pains aren’t signals of a problem in the body
  • How pain, inflammation, and the immune system are related

Most people experience pain regularly, but that doesn’t mean they are destined to live with it.

This episode is sponsored by Bioadaptives. Bioadaptives is a natural supplements company that focuses on research and development and the creation of natural products that support optimal health and wellness. Since 2014, BioAdaptives®, has been engaged in the research of primitive cells, including stem cells and their derivatives, and natural ingredients which may promote their activities.



Dr. Edward E. Jacobs, Jr. (Dr. Ted), a graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Medical school, is a biotechnology consultant with over 25 years experience in biopharmaceutical and medical device development, as well as, 35 years of teaching and direct patient care. Dr. Ted has participated in drug development process from discovery through animal and human studies, including regulatory support for FDA and international regulatory affairs, strategic planning and investor relations.


Natural Green Living Podcast Episode 1

Pain is a part of a healthy immune response, and there are natural ways to reduce or eliminate it that work with your body naturally.

Silvia Yoshida (00:09):

Hi, welcome to Natural Green Living podcast. My name is Silvia, and I’m your host today. You’re going to have an overview about pain. You can come to understand what is the pain? What is it? Inflammation? What are the different types of things and ways that we can manage Ben issue naturally. And to talk about all those questions, we have a special guest that has a deep understanding about paying for many years is dr. Jacobs. He is the Harvard medical school graduate, and he is a retired surgeon. And now he’s a biotechnology consultant. He has a long experience dealing with patients that have many different type of things, and he can translate this topic in a very understandable way. And we want to empower you to understand what is happening with your body and how can you find natural ways to have the relief that you deserve. So I’m very happy to welcome Dr. Ted, thank you so much for joining us today.

Dr. Ted Jacobs (01:31):

Oh, thank you, Silvia. It’s a real pleasure to be here and it’s a fascinating topic. I intend to speak about pain today and in a general way because it’s very complicated, but it can be made in into a more simple story because everybody knows that they have pain from time to time and there’s many different aspects of it, but understanding it better, I think will help people manage their own pain better. And of course, if you can do that naturally, then that’s even better because obviously the more we’re with nature and managing things in a natural way, the more chance we have to be successful. Does that sound right to you?

Silvia Yoshida (02:22):

Yeah, I completely agree. And that’s, you know, the whole purpose for the natural green leaving really help our listeners to understand more about how they can support their health with natural ways, right? And there’s so much knowledge that we can share to empower our listeners. So that’s why I’m inviting you to have a series of podcasts that we can explore each topic every single episode. So as an intro for being, we can start our conversation right now answering is it pain because I can have an understanding there might be a little bit off and for us to have a dialogue that we can grow and build up, I think the foundation, what is w what it pain means? I think it’s important.

Dr. Ted Jacobs (03:18):

Well, I think you’ve hit on an important topic and that is if people don’t know what pain is or what it represents it’s a mystery. And when things are a mystery, they can be very scary. And so when someone gets a pain, they can be very, very frightened. In fact pain is the most common reason that people go to see a doctor. And part of that, a reason to go is not only the pain, but it’s the fear that they don’t understand what it is what it could mean. And they want reassurance that they’re not in big trouble. So that’s where we’re going to begin to talk about what pain is and what it means and how it can be managed naturally so that you don’t rely necessarily on doctors. Also, it’s certainly the right thing to do is to see your healthcare provider at any time that you’re worried about something or want an explanation, but by giving you more information, perhaps you can start making some of your own decisions and not be frightened. When you have a pain, what do you, does that sound like something you’d like to hear about today?

Silvia Yoshida (04:40):

It’s definitely something that I, I came to that journey and I understand that when you have that pain, you know, can be very disturbing and again, even impact completely in your mood and your productivity, you know, quality of life. Definitely. So, you know, I want a oneness to have this understanding, you know, what is it being it, if it’s not, if it’s not a disease, what it is?

Dr. Ted Jacobs (05:08):

Well, it’s certainly not a disease. Pain has actually a, what we call a symptom or a feeling that occurs when there’s something going on in the body and it reacts to it. So pain is not a disease. It’s something that we feel, and it’s usually related to something going on in the body. It might be trivial. It might be a very small, a problem or a larger problem. And so part of the journey that we can go on together is to talk about how pain gets originated and interpreted. And then then we learn what to do about it and how to sort it out ourselves. So that we’re much more secure when we do get a pain. So the first thing to talk about, I think is how does pain actually occur? The nerves in the body are divided up into different kinds of functions.

And what we have are sensory nerves, that pick up sensations in the body, and these sensory nerves are like a big tree with many, many branches and many fine branches. And the ends of those branches are in every part of your body. So deep inside of your body and also on the surface of your body as well. And at the end of each one of these little branches is like a little telephone that’s sitting there waiting to be activated and send a signal that there’s something going on near that telephone. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense. Yes. Okay. So the telephones are quiet, but then something happens in the body and it’s always a chemical reaction of some kind of chemical gets released and causes that phone to ring. And when the phone rings and a message is sent, it’s sent along those branches or along those sensory nerves, up through the spinal cord, up to the brain where the signal comes in and it’s interpreted as pain because these are special sensory nerves that pick up pain signals from these chemicals. So the brain doesn’t know anything until it gets a signal from some part of the body. And then when it gets the signal, it interprets it as pain coming, Prague, particular location, and of a particular character and duration. So that’s how we get pain. It comes from outside of the brain, into the brain, through these branches of the big tree. And that’s always active and it’s being monitored all the time. So is that clear that we’re getting pain as signals from any part of the body when there is a release of chemicals?

Silvia Yoshida (08:03):

Oh, yes. Yeah. It’s so interesting how everything is so perfect. And when there is any imbalance, then our body give us the sign and this is really amazing. So, yeah. So when you’re, when you’re telling me that dad, the, the pain is like alarm system for the function of our health. Right. So is that meaning that it’s related to an inflammation or, or some kind of like infection?

Dr. Ted Jacobs (08:39):

Well, that’s a good question because we would like to know why are you getting a pain signal? And and there’s a number of reasons, but they’re all, they all really relate in most cases to a process called inflammation and inflammation is a topic that we’ll talk about in much more detail in another podcast, but basically inflammation is like a, a fire. If you have a fire in in your backyard or in a small part of your building say in your kitchen, it could be very small. And what happens is, is that an alarm bell goes off to say, there’s a fire somewhere. And because you know where that alarm bell is ringing, you can understand that there’s a problem there. Now it could be for a lot of different reasons, a fire could start because someone was smoking a cigarette and didn’t put it out.

Someone struck a match at the wrong time. Something caught on fire by accident. There’s lots of reasons why you could have a small fire starting. And, and so the alarm bell doesn’t necessarily tell you why the fire started, but it says there is a fire. And the next thing that happens is, is that you have a first response or first responders go to that fire to try and put it out. So there’s a number of things that happen. One thing they try to do is they contain the fire so that it doesn’t spread and get bigger. And the other thing it does is it tries to put the fire out. So, so these are the immediate things that happen. That’s all part of inflammation is to contain the problem and, and destroy if it’s an invader or correct. Whatever’s going on to put out the fire.

And then the third thing that it does is that it brings in new, healthy replacements for whatever it got damaged. So that if it’s if it’s in your kitchen and the stove and the stove gets burned up and it’s damaged, it makes sure that you get a new stove so that when the fire’s out, you’ve got a new stove. So this inflammatory process, which is actually controlled by the immune system it goes into activity automatically. So you see there’s a big connection between your immune system, the inflammatory response, which is to contain the problem and the pain signal or the alarm that goes off. Is that clear?


Silvia Yoshida (11:18):

Oh, yes. Yes. It’s really interesting. It’s very interesting to get those ideas because it can be very complex, but the way that you’re introducing the topic and making this analogy is helping me so much. So I appreciate that. And I have, I have another question, and very often I see that there’s different type of pains, right? Like sometimes it can be describing so many different ways or it can last longer and very recently came to understand that an acute pain it’s, it doesn’t, it doesn’t translate intensity, but it translate length off duration. Is that correct?

Dr. Ted Jacobs (12:04):

Oh, you’re absolutely right. And many, many people think that acute pain means intense pain, but actually the medical term and the correct use is if pain is intense, it’s severe. So it could be mild, medium or severe or extreme, but acute pain means how long does the pain last, or how long is it expected to last? So by definition, acute pain is pain. That’s expected to last for minutes, days, hours, weeks, months, or at least up to one month. And if it’s longer than that, if it’s six months or longer, it’s called chronic pain. So you have acute pain of short duration and chronic pain of long duration. And those are two very different categories of pain. And we’ll have a podcast about acute pain and the different kinds of acute pain that people feel because they can be managed differently than chronic pain.

Silvia Yoshida (13:06):

Wow. Yes, yes. I see the topic. It never ends is good, expanding and expanding there so much for us to, to understand okay. In, I am so interested that until now you’re talking how our body works, right. And then there’s this perfection that when there’s this imbalance, we have, you know, the immune system and the inflammatory reaction to, to it now, is there a way that I can help my body to have the stronger immune system that everybody is talking about right now? Right? Like everybody wants to be healthier and stronger, especially because of the vulnerability that we feel we with our health right now during this pandemic. And I want to understand, is there a way that we can use natural ingredients, like not chemicals that we can use daily basis that can like improve our wellbeing in our immune system?

Dr. Ted Jacobs (14:16):

Well, certainly, and that’s going to be a topic for even another podcast because that’s a very complicated topic as well. But I can tell you, there are many natural things that you can do to improve your immune system and to modify the inflammatory response and also to control your pain. So there are natural ingredients that do that in various combinations. We’ll be talking about that these are topics that are covered in the book, the guide that is the how get natural pain relief which is the ebook that’s available to listeners. If they would like to get it, it’s there, it’s a free copy.

Silvia Yoshida (15:00):

Yes. Yes. That’s really great, doctor that, because I was very happy when you brought me that book, how can you have natural brain relief? And I was just so impressed because this guide can help a lot of people, right? And there’s so much information that we can share and you are so kind that you are making it available for our listeners. So I really appreciate you being kind in offering your, your guide and for the listeners that are interested, they can go to the ebook page on the website. Right? You have the pain relief guide that we really want it.

Dr. Ted Jacobs (16:05):

Yes, absolutely. And so if listeners would like to look at that book we’ll be covering topics within that book and also elaborating on new ones as well, that are related to that. I wanted to get back to the causes of pain because basically the immune system is guarding our body for anything that’s a threat or something that’s abnormal. And the pain signal gets sent off as part of the inflammatory response. Just for general purposes. If, if you consider an example and when you twist your ankle or you cut your finger what happens when you get an inflammatory response, you get pain, you have heat and swelling and redness of the area. And you’d also have decreased function. So if you’ve twisted your ankle, you have pain and swelling and redness there, and you really can’t walk on your, on your foot with a twisted ankle.

So there’s a loss of function. If you have a tonsil infection, you also have inflammation. So you have redness, swelling, pain, heat, and it’s hard to swallow. So you lose function. So the inflammatory response is a general response that happens all over the body. And it’s usually due to infection, disease, or injury. Those are the three main categories of things that go wrong. That cause damage to cells and the stimulation of abnormal chemicals being released at that moment and the immune system being part of that. And the main thing that happens is pain happens because it’s an alarm system to let you know, there’s a problem somewhere now. What’s interesting. And I’m sure our listeners would like to know that is that, is it true that every time I have a pain, it’s a problem in my body. The answer is no, because like all alarm systems, sometimes there are false alarms and sometimes you get a pain, it lasts for a very short time and it goes away and we don’t know what happened.

Why did you get the pain? It’s sort of like a car alarm you’re walking down the street and a car alarm goes off and it sounds for a few minutes and then it goes away. And was there a problem with the car? Probably not, but just the alarm went off for a few minutes and it went away. Same thing can happen in your body. So is that clear that not all pains means there’s a problem, but it could mean a problem. And that’s why we need to talk about pain when to see if doctor and what are the underlying causes.

Silvia Yoshida (19:02):

Yes, yes. And it makes so much sense and it gives us hope. I am sure that many of our listeners understanding that a little bit more helping, it’s a function that it’s here to protect us instead of limiting our quality of life. It kind of like put in a positive perspective. And I just want for us to, to close this episode, because I know that I’m bringing up many things that we can explore more in depth later, but I heard, you know, that you’ve been working in bio technology researching about natural ingredients and how they work. And you had a very recent discovery. Can you explain, introduce that to us?

Dr. Ted Jacobs (19:56):

Well, I can talk about it briefly now because we’ll go into it more in another podcast. But after my traditional training in medical school I began doing research in natural ingredients. These are supplements and botanicals that have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years. And it turns out that they can be very, very effective for controlling various processes and including pain, for instance the white Willow bark has a substance in it that helps you get rid of pain. And the pharmaceutical industry a few hundred years ago looked at that and extracted the chemical in there. And today that chemical is called aspirin. So we know that aspirin works, but it came from a natural source and a natural supplement that people had been using for hundreds of years before there even was a pharmaceutical industry.

So what I discovered is that there are many of these ingredients that are effective and have been used by countless number of people over many years, and they wouldn’t use them unless they were effective. So I got curious about this and started looking at an array coming from China and from India and various parts of the world. And what we found is that if you put some of them together, they actually magnify the effect. You get what we call a synergistic effect, so that if you’re looking for pain control, you can take several of these ingredients, put them together and get a very powerful combination to help control pain. And this is going to be something we’ll be talking about in future podcasts, but I’m very excited about this because the research and the science is there, and we have a lot of information about this, and it’s an exciting time now because it means we do not have to rely on pharmaceuticals to get a relief from pain.

Silvia Yoshida (22:09):

Yes, yes. That’s the point. And really, I appreciate you bringing it up because it’s the purpose of this podcast. It’s true. Help our listeners to find natural ways of, you know, having a health that they deserve and be able to be productive, right? Like everybody wants to be happy and be productive and fulfill their dreams. And sometimes the being is in the middle. So you’re now giving the opportunity for our listeners to have back, you know, that confidence that they can do have that pain relief naturally without putting at risk, that you’re going to be consuming chemicals, right. Or you’re going to have like being one more victim off the opioids crisis that we’re facing in America. Right.

Dr. Ted Jacobs (23:05):

Well, that’s an important aspect of this. And of course the opioid problem is very special. It’s a very serious problem. But it’s not just the opioids. It’s, it’s basically all pharmaceuticals have side effects and some harmful effects that they label on, on the packages. So you just have to go to your local drug store and look at the package and it will indicate what the problems are with each one of these pharmaceuticals. So it’s, it’s nothing that I’m saying it’s, what’s available and coming from the pharmaceutical companies themselves. And so possibility here is that with natural products, they have very, very few side effects. In fact the ingredients that are used in most formulations really don’t have any other interaction and are really safe to use. And this has been shown over hundreds and hundreds of years. These are, these are safe ingredients, but this is all ahead of us. We’ll come back to this and in more podcasts about this, and we’ll talk about acute pain, we’ll talk about chronic pain. We’ll talk about non medicinal ways to manage pain and things that you can improve with just changing your lifestyle. So this is all about natural care and self care. And I hope that you’ll have a lot more questions for me because I’m anxious to tell you more.

Silvia Yoshida (24:35):

Yes, and our listeners, please, if you have any questions to send to Dr. Ted, please don’t hesitate and reach out to us, right? We were, we’re bringing a new material every week, every week. So every week we’re going to bring a new episodes and we’re going to be answering those questions. So thank you so much, Dr. Ted for having being in ours in our podcast today and you can download the free book on how you can have a natural pain relief ebook written by Dr. Jacob.


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